Assalam alaikum & Peace to all
I get so tired of reading all the negative things about Islam. It grates on my nerves when uneducated (as well as educated ones - those are worse!) people go about spewing hatred and mis-quote and mis-interpreted verses from Quran. Well you know what, many other religions have quotations that can be taken the wrong way and they are never questioned...instead they are pushed aside yet with Islam it is plastered all over the place! Well you know what its about time I plaster some other things on the wall... this may come off as a 'two wrongs don't make a right' be it so but my intentions for posting these are to make people aware of their own sayings and writings.
Take it with a grain of salt, grow a tough skin, whatever you want but please be informed and knowledgeable - research it and defend it if you want - I would love to get some rebuttals for these verses. Had I seen these verses when I was Catholic I would have for sure run to my Bible to make sure it wasn't in there, and if I saw them in there, it would have made me question my faith. Perhaps there is a need for that? Inshallah (God-willing) we will all learn!
Bear with me its a long post but something I feel needs to be 'out there' for all to see!
The following is from the website www.bible.ca -the parts not in italics are the written words from that site - My comments are in red.
1 Corinthians 14:34-36 we read, "Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church, for Adam was formed first, then Eve."
The reason women are to be submissive and not speak in the worship of the church is God has specified that the man is to rule over the woman. Many people do not approve of what God has done, but this is still God’s business. As we read in Romans 9:20,
"But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, Why have you made me like this?" Who are we to question God?
But then we find this in the New Testament : Luke 10:38-39
As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. 39She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet listening to what he said.
Funny how the woman is supposed to learn from her husband, yet Jesus is in the house teaching women.
As well Jesus says:
Luke : 35 But wisdom is proved right by all her children.
Also Jesus refers to women as daughters of Abraham - it was a term only used for men at that time but Jesus used it for women as well...hmm makes you think doesn't it?
Luke 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham
Jesus also had female disciples:
Luke 8:1-3 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,
2.And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, 3. And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.
Galatians 3:28, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
So now they are equal?
I thought women were not to lead or to be 'learned' from (certainly should not have been a prophetess?)
Exodus 15:20, "Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took the timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances." And Micah gave her the rank of a leader as Moses and Aaron in Micah 6:4, "For I brought you up from the land of Egypt, I redeemed you from the house of bondage; and I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam."
So one has to think: How come God changed his mind (Astaghafirullah-I seek forgiveness from God) from the Old to New testament? So what is the real status of women then? Let's just look at a passage from the Quran:
4:124 As for those who lead a righteous life, male or female, while believing, they enter Paradise; without the slightest injustice.
3:35 The submitting men, the submitting women, the believing men, the believing women, the obedient men, the obedient women, the truthful men, the truthful women, the steadfast men, the steadfast women, the reverent men, the reverent women, the charitable men, the charitable women, the fasting men, the fasting women, the chaste men, the chaste women, and the men who commemorate GOD frequently, and the commemorating women; GOD has prepared for them forgiveness and a great recompense.
And just for the record - Adam and Eve have sinned...not like in Judeo-Christian beliefs that Eve is evil (astafiruallah)
7:20-22 The devil whispered to them, in order to reveal their bodies, which were invisible to them. He said, "Your Lord did not forbid you from this tree, except to prevent you from becoming angels, and from attaining eternal existence." He swore to them, "I am giving you good advice." He thus duped them with lies. As soon as they tasted the tree, their bodies became visible to them, and they tried to cover themselves with the leaves of Paradise. Their Lord called upon them: "Did I not enjoin you from that tree, and warn you that the devil is your most ardent enemy?"
Now the ever popular statement, "Islam is spread by the sword" - This is kind of an interesting statement coming from Jesus who was proclaimed in Isaiah 9:6: A child will be born to us. A son will be given to us. He will rule over us. And he will be called Wonderful Adviser and Mighty God. He will also be called Father Who Lives Forever and Prince Who Brings Peace.
Matthew 10: 34-39
Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it."
I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism* to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! 51 Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father* against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.
If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children
and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."'
In the Quran:
Allah says: “The Messenger’s duty is but to proclaim the Message.” [Sûrah al-Mâ’idah: 99]
Allah says: “So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to Allah, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned: ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in Allah’s sight are all of His servants.” [Sûrah Âl `Imrân: 20]
I really hope that people reading this will open their eyes and learn about their own religions. This is not meant to provoke hate or ill-feelings, no, it is only to show that everything must be researched and learned. Do not go out into the world and spew hatred, maybe learn about yourselves first.